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Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1482	Posted - 2012.09.18 17:42:00 - [1] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: They collect bills in loot. Are people really still not understanding WTF is ahppening in a gank? Even a newbie like me got enough information to know a 900 mill penalty would only change where the bar for profitable is. Insetad of a ship with 2 bill inside, they woudl aim for 4 bill... You can see a fairly good amount of kills with 4bil as well. So really, you'd want something like a 10billion penalty. Just to be sure, since you know: "Ganking was never intended to be profitable" even if the people being exploded are complete morons. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1483	Posted - 2012.09.19 02:08:00 - [2] - Quote Andski wrote: Heet Crusher wrote: First off don't believe a word a cfc or hbc ever says. They are scammers, liars, and all around all star idiots. They are what is wrong with EVE. Now I know how i would handle this. Go gank them. If they are in tier 3 bc you can instant pop them if you have the skills. If not hire some mercs to clear the system. And you can sit back and watch the fireworks if you prefer. i see elo knight opened the doors to the unwashed masses of recruitment scam victims Anyone going to make an elo knight Dawnfall meme video, or something based on those little figures used in the BoB videos where sirmolle was bewailing his useless pets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcM7iCBN6T4 Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1483	Posted - 2012.09.19 02:35:00 - [3] - Quote Sara XIII wrote: BillyBanter wrote: The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills. It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. James315 for CSM Oh, because gankers accept the risk, it's irrelevant, I get it. By posting, you've accepted the risk that you're dumb and people will laugh at you. Therefore the risk is irrelevant and your posting should be nerfed. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1486	Posted - 2012.09.19 03:18:00 - [4] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CCP didn't patch exhumer stupid, they just buffed the exhumers, they still die in a hilarious manner because fools still fit them for max yield and wonder why they die. See my sig. They attempted to. At least give them credit for that. Stupidity is an amazingly powerful final boss, it has many Final Forms that you have to defeat like some horribly sadistic grinding game where you need to hit the level cap, grind the uberweapons and break your damage limits to even have a chance at surviving the final boss' first few "easy" forms. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1491	Posted - 2012.09.19 03:36:00 - [5] - Quote Ghazu wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Ghazu wrote: With a ransom payment. They don't even ask. They cargo scan and shoot if you are worth it. Economics vOv They'll ask you for 4 bil, you'll say no, and try to get away. Giving the freighter time to do that isn't really the best when your tackler will pop soon. Or they can just pop you and take their chances. They might get 4 bil, or maybe none, or maybe 8 bil. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1492	Posted - 2012.09.19 03:55:00 - [6] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: What if you bumped him off align instead of tackling? The clock on DC timer become your enemy I guess. Yeah, there's various things you can do. Obviously if they're autopiloting they will be a good way from the gate, so if you bump them so they can't warp you should be good. But you're using precious seconds to try and negotiate with someone when you can try your luck at the (risk accepted therefore irrelevant) ganking-success-probability and then loot-drop-distribution games. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1493	Posted - 2012.09.19 03:56:00 - [7] - Quote Theodoric Darkwind wrote: you cant biomass a character with negative sec status. they are either using trial accounts and just letting the accounts lapse or turning the alts into cyno alts once they are done. The secret of our bad cynoing habits - random alts are being used, no wonder people jump into hostile fleets when they see "xxA Gankerxx as their cyno." Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1495	Posted - 2012.09.19 05:20:00 - [8] - Quote Pipa Porto wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CCP didn't patch exhumer stupid, they just buffed the exhumers, they still die in a hilarious manner because fools still fit them for max yield and wonder why they die. See my sig. They attempted to. At least give them credit for that. Stupidity is an amazingly powerful final boss, it has many Final Forms that you have to defeat like some horribly sadistic grinding game where you need to hit the level cap, grind the uberweapons and break your damage limits to even have a chance at surviving the final boss' first few "easy" forms. I didn't realize WoW's final boss was called Stupidity. Huh, learn something new every day. I was thinking final fantasy really, I don't think WoW has damage limits? But they's only the biggest boss for now, in the expansion, "Winter Expansion", the new dungeon will open up featuring the new new final bosses Ignorance and Willful Idiocy. This tag team is sure to keep you entertained and paying repair bills until - *You learn how to farm them.* Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1499	Posted - 2012.09.19 11:48:00 - [9] - Quote Christ Illusion wrote: i just randomly looked some killmail. several billions of cargo / freighter. are those freighter pilots normal? Not THAT normal, but normal enough that there's plenty of killmails to go around. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1504	Posted - 2012.09.20 02:38:00 - [10] - Quote Seminole Sun wrote: Personally, the only think about freighter ganking that has my hackles up is the riskless bumping. It's nearly 100% a grief mechanic and it needs to be removed (but replaced!!) so that there's still a plausible capacity for hi-sec ganking. I'm sure it can be arranged to have bumping removed but no replacement mechanic put in. Forward, onto a safer highsec, freighters of Empire unite ! You have only your lossmails to lose ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1505	Posted - 2012.09.20 04:23:00 - [11] - Quote Buck Futz wrote: Sad thing is, CCP Soundwave spouted off about this in the Fairy Tale threadnaught - stating that ALL high-sec ganking should be in the third category, and the game should be balanced around this concept. ("Should cost the gankers more than the victim....") Of course, as we've seen since August 8, it led to Exhumer ganking to almost completely disappearing overnight. Mission accomplished, Soundwave. Sure, its still 'possible', you ass. But only If you are stupid and enjoy throwing away massive amounts of ISK. Gankers aren't stupid. And freighters became the next target of choice. Unfortunately, solo-operators like myself are priced out of that particular market.... Don't worry, soon everyone will be priced out of it, since it's "too profitable" as in, you know "profitable". Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1507	Posted - 2012.09.20 20:00:00 - [12] - Quote Andski wrote: Malphilos wrote: Sure they are, but that's all upside after fixed costs. It's completely possible to lose all your iskies suicide ganking, but you'd have to do it on purpose. So those dudes that gank a freighter which yields absolutely nothing as far as drops are just losing their ISK on purpose? Explain this new wave of NPC alt logic to me, please. Basically, CCP needs to make ganking worse. What about giving the freighter 1000% buff to EHP? Well no, the gankers accepted losing the ship, and a 20bil haul was exploded. Better just make it impossible ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1507	Posted - 2012.09.20 20:48:00 - [13] - Quote Robert De'Arneth wrote: I really think the bottom line on this is this!! Anyone who can fly a billion + ISK ships is not new to the game, and they should know where the gank spots are, it is real easy to look, takes far less time then it does to buy a new ship with billions of freight. Like "newbies" mining in hulks in the starter systems, eh ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1510	Posted - 2012.09.23 01:55:00 - [14] - Quote Hiyora Akachi wrote: People who deserve to lose things are losing them. Carry on, nothing to see here. That was sort of the case earlier with certain types of exhumers. CCP seems unlikely to just carry on when they can carry the miners/freighters/missioners/XXYY to safety. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1510	Posted - 2012.09.24 04:03:00 - [15] - Quote SlayerOfArgus wrote: Ways to avoid suicide ganking: Don't undock Highsec is supposed to be safe though, what happened? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1510	Posted - 2012.09.24 12:13:00 - [16] - Quote William Walker wrote: Gibbo3771 wrote: William Walker wrote: Also in Niarja. All is going according to plan. FA scrub thinks hes part of goons divine plan, you are a pawn at most. A pawn is part of a plan too, no? We're all pawns, and the ~puppetmasta~ is playing some other game that isn't EVE. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1539	Posted - 2012.10.07 02:19:00 - [17] - Quote Drone Rogue wrote: Drone Rogue wrote: Nothing needs to be changed mechanics-wise about all this. After all, if you stop this kind of ganking, what are Goons gonna ******** to before they snuggle up in their single beds? It's care in the community folks. Hmmm... I guess I should have said mt**bate... We're pleasuring ourselves by blowing up other people. If anything it would be uh, you know ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm

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